Anonymous asked: Do you universalise veganism? I.e., do you maintain that anyone, anywhere, can eat a vegan diet and be healthy, no ifs and buts?
Physiologically, all humans have the capacity to thrive on a plant-based diet. Some with more challenges than others.
Realistically, many can’t for several reasons.
Certainly, those who can go vegan, should.
Vegans: your dietary choices do not make you morally superior. Hitler was a vegetarian, after all. suck
Carnists: Your choices determine your moral fiber. If you kick a kitten because you enjoy causing it pain, then you are morally inferior to those…
Sorry to break it to you but it sounds like the classes you’re taking might’ve had some misinformed teachers.
To clarify, here is where the site got its information: http://www.vegsource.com/berry/hitler.html
And their sources:
1 Robert Payne, The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler(New York: Praeger, 1973), pp. 346-7.
2 Roberta Kalechofsky, “Hitler’s Vegetarianism: A Queston of How You Define Vegetarianism,” (Unpublished Essay, 1997).
3 ibid., p.1.
4 “Vegetarianism,” The Encyclopedia Britannica,1911 ed., 27-28, p. 967.
5 Italics mine.
6 Fritz Redlich, Hitler: Diagnosis of a Destructive Prophet(Oxford: OUP, 1998), pp.77-8
7 John Toland Adolf Hitler(Garden City: Doubleday, 1976), p. 256.
8 Kalechofsky, op. cit., p.2. br> 9 Toland, op cit., p.826.
10 ibid.,p.745.
11 ibid., p. 821.
12 ibid., pp. 824-5. br> 13 ibid.,p. 761.
14 ibid., p. 741.
15 ibid.,p. 741.
16 Dione Lucas with Darlene Geis, The Gourmet Cooking School Cookbook (New York: Bernard Geis Associates, 1964), p. 89.
17 ibid.,p.89.
18 Redlich, op. cit., p.216.
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Vagina, penis and cum are still on the vegan menu. So you can stop with the unoriginal jokes now.
Now, how do you get this message across to every single clever carnist out there with a social networking account?
- Carnist: Don't EVER compare animal industry to the Holocaust, do you know how offensive that is?
- Carnist: Maybe if vegans weren't such Nazis people would listen to them.
- Carnist: Hitler was a vegetarian.
People who throw out meat or waste animal products
Especially you Lady Gaga. You meat-dress wearing bitch.
If you’re gonna make an animal die for you the absolute least you can do is fucking eat it, not just throw it away.
Or feed it back to some animals that could benefit more from it than people.
Vegans: your dietary choices do not make you morally superior. Hitler was a vegetarian, after all. suck
Carnists: Your choices determine your moral fiber. If you kick a kitten because you enjoy causing it pain, then you are morally inferior to those who do not kick kittens for fun.
He was actually an enthusiastic meat eater.
What now?
that-brunettebetch asked: I was reading your argument with the guy whose mom cooks meat even though she doesn't eat it and I noticed you said our society easily supports veganism. What about low income families who can't afford high end food or sometimes have to eat out because it's cheaper? I think our society supports veganism, but only if you have the money for it. What is your opinion?
Low income families can and should have little to no problem accessing vegan friendly foods. Veganism ≠ high end food. The cheapest foods available are vegan and if low income families have access to meat and dairy, there should also be access to bulk foods, canned goods and at the very least SOME produce.
The perception that eating out is cheaper isn’t true and it costs a family more money to eat at McDonalds than it does to eat a healthy vegan meal.
Here are two good resources for veganism on the cheap:
Ok, so here’s my little rant. I have a bunch of friends who are vegans or vegetarians and others who are really strong animal rights activists. I think that’s great. If it works for you, wonderful. I don’t condone the maltreatment of animals for any reason. But If I…
I respect your right to make your choices. Like I said, if it works for you, great. As for me, I eat meat. I wouldn’t actually wear a deerskin vest, because I agree with you, they’re gaudy. But the point I was trying to make is, killing an animal and using as much of it as you can either for food or clothing or shelter, etc. to me, is completely fine
I don’t think that there should be factories that do nothing but slaughter cows and pigs, and I don’t think that chickens should be in cages that are basically smaller than they are. That’s wrong.
Now please, if you decide to respond to this, don’t call me names. I don’t deserve that. No one does. I haven’t said a bad word against you, and I’d appreciate the same consideration.
Survival scenarios that call for killing animals are completely different than average consumption. If you don’t have to kill the animal for your survival it’s wrong, and you saying you can do that if you want makes you an ass. Especially with the tone you used in your rant. Same goes for eating meat. Unless you’re an amazonian tribal person or inuit with internet access, you probably have no real need for meat, other than personal taste and preference, which goes to reinforce my point that exploiting animals for non-survival reasons is wrong.
If you don’t think there should be factories that produce animals, you would be getting all your meat right from the wild yourself. Even small, family owned farms employ inhumane practices just to compete and turn a profit.
If you don’t want condescending vegans dissecting your little rants, you should do some research into what happens with your meat before posting asinine.
Vegans/vegetarians
Ok, so here’s my little rant. I have a bunch of friends who are vegans or vegetarians and others who are really strong animal rights activists. I think that’s great. If it works for you, wonderful. I don’t condone the maltreatment of animals for any reason. But If I want to go out in the woods and shoot a deer, eat it and make a vest out of the hide, I’m going to fucking do it, and that doesn’t make me a horrible person.
So take your kale smoothies and tofurkey and get off your high horse with that shit, because I WILL EAT MEAT NO MATTER WHAT THE FUCK YOU SAY TO ME and I’d like you to respect my choices like I accept yours.
kthx
“I don’t condone the maltreatment of animals for any reason.”
Except for when I want to eat them, wear them or really, just do whatever the hell I want with them.
Now, I don’t know if going in the woods, shooting a deer, eating it and making a tacky, gaudy vest out of its skin makes you a horrible person, but it most definitely makes you at the very least a huge asshole. Sadly, you have every right to go kill animals that don’t need to die for your food or clothing as much as I have the right to call you an asshole for it.
So, take your deer meat, your gaudy-ass deerksin vest, your bacon, cheese and eggs and get off my planet because I WILL GIVE YOU SHIT FOR BEING AN ASSHOLE NO MATTER WHAT THE FUCK YOU SAY TO ME so I’d like for you to recognize that some choices are harmful and can’t be respected.
kthx
